Teabaggers go Jihad, threaten to Kill Over Cartoon: Drudge Retort

I can't imagine death threats over something so lame.

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and for those who speak "normal"

means that's pretty funny not only the cartoon but their reaction.

Nothing says "you struck a nerve" and "truth hurts" more than a death threat.

1. The cartoon is stupid and barely humorous at all, but that is not a surprise from someone who thinks he will get laughs just by repeating "teabaggers" and "teabag" over and over.

2. He should produce whatever records he has of these death threats so we can determine the validity of them.

3. If there were death threats over this drivel, that's even stupider than the cartoon and the perps should be punished to the extent of the law if caught.

I suggest a rather large suppository.

Do you want to look stupid? Is it a goal of yours?

'Teabagging' is a description that was put on the Tea Partys by goofballs on the left who thought it was cute to tag their enemies with a vulgar sexually descriptive nickname that has never been used by the tea partiers to describe their movement.

Morons like Olbermann and Maddow made fools out of themselves by repeating "teabagging" innuenedos over and over again like 12 year olds taunting their rivals in the schoolyard.

But tell us, why do you think it is appropriate to use the word teabagging here?

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One lump or two John Russell?

They are gluttons for punishment.

John Russell

Here's a mirror. Don't go around with feeble attempts at insulting people without first making sure that insult doesn't pertain to you as well.

Tangojones are you implying that he even has the intellectual capacity to debate 6 year olds?

Why do you think it is appropriate to use this insult against your opponents? If you think it is all right for YOU to slur these people with what is clearly inappropriate use of the word 'teabagger' here, where do you get the nerve to complain if someone uses the word 'fag' or 'fruit', or if they use the n word for that matter? If you deliberately slur a group you forfeit any right you had to criticize the language of others.

Janeane Garofalo

“Let’s be very honest about what this is about. It’s not about bashing Democrats, it’s not about taxes, they have no idea what the Boston tea party was about, they don’t know their history at all. This is about hating a black man in the White House. This is racism straight up. That is nothing but a bunch of teabagging rednecks....Fox News loves to foment this anti-intellectualism because that’s their bread and butter. If you have a cerebral electorate, Fox News goes down the toilet, you know, very, very fast....They have tackled that elusive...Klan with a ‘K’ demo.”

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/15/tea-party-photos-tax-day_n_186752.html

http://washingtonindependent.com/73036/n-word-sign-dogs-would-be-tea-party-leader

I found it funny that about 60-75 percent of the signs had misspelled words or the fact that even when fox news interviewed the tea bag party participants, questioning the presidents nationality, or had some form of racist or religious comment such as "this is a christian nation" followed by a few derogatory terms for Muslims and that only a small majority were actually about taxes. (wont use teabagger, I find it funny but I understand that you might find it disrespectful)

However I am still very much perturbed by the fact that some of these individuals had children holding all manner of signs.

John Russell

You asked why is it appropriate to call them Tea Baggers?

What should we call them.....Freaks R Them?

Although that would be a more apt name the fact remains that these people chose that term. They call themselves Tea Baggers and they're even having a Tea Bagger Convention with Sarah Palin as their headlining ventertainer.

So if they're going to put their ass out there for the world to see what can we do but call them exactly what they are....assh...err, excuse me

Tea Baggers.

:)

John Russell

You asked why is it appropriate to call them Tea Baggers?

What should we call them.....Freaks R Them?

Although that would be a more apt name the fact remains that these people chose that term. They call themselves Tea Baggers and they're even having a Tea Bagger Convention with Sarah Palin as their headlining ventertainer.

So if they're going to put their ass out there for the world to see what can we do but call them exactly what they are....assh...err, excuse me

Tea Baggers.

:)

Did you see what I said about someone opening their mouth and removing all doubt? That's you.

These people DO NOT call themselves "teabaggers". You are either entirely wrong or being dishonest. You can explain which one it is. "Teabaggers" is slang for a sexual vulgarity, and was applied to the tea partys by Rachel Maddow, Keith Olbermann, and some left wing internet bloggers. As for you, you should quit while you are behind.

They are the ones who chose the teabag as their symbol. They are the ones who wore them hanging from their hats and bouncing on their faces at their rallies. They tarred themselves with that brush, not the left wing. We just think it's funny that they didn't think it all the way through before picking that as a symbol. That makes them stooooopid.

Fuhgetabotit, John's been going on in this line since the beginning...

Teabaggers often act completely childish, and absolutely unrealistic. I guess it's the price you pay for being an adult (child).

JohnRussell, I agree with you so far on something it least. It is good for a chuckle especially for college guys Like I; however, it has no place in politics, journalism or any form of rational debate.

However, i would also like to mention that when Maddow and Dobbs ( Both of whom I Dislike) were arguing about Obama's nationality DObbs actually called Maddow a "tea-Bagging queen" and started the same rhetoric about how and why she was the tea bagging queen by making snarky comments. Fox News and MSNBC are constantly and consistently flawed, however, each makes a good point once in while... "It cant rain all the time"

They are the ones who chose the teabag as their symbol. They are the ones who wore them hanging from their hats and bouncing on their faces at their rallies. They tarred themselves with that brush, not the left wing. We just think it's funny that they didn't think it all the way through before picking that as a symbol. That makes them stooooopid.

They didn't 'tar themselves', if they were 'tarred' , they were tarred by the left. 'Teabagging' as the term was used by Maddow and Olbermann has nothing to do with the protests or the protestors.

Your entire rationale is based on these people being ignorant of the gutter slang use of the word, therefore they deserved to be ridiculed. This is illogical nonsense, and you know it.

You aren't answering my question sir, why do you care? Are you a teabaggeryourself, is your family, are your friends? This seems so personal for you and I don't understand your reaction to the conversation. Its an open society, this information is common knowledge, everyone can see it but it seems to be more personal for you then others.

Logic doesn't seem to be your strong suit. I don't 'care' if you want to make a fool out of yourself, I am merely commenting on it as part of the thread.

You said that the tea partiers hijacked the word ''teabagger", which is a lie. The term was put on them by their political enemies. Are you going to change your statement in order to comply with the truth?

Don't call them teabaggers. In deference to John Russell, let's call them radical Islamists, since that is exactly what they are acting like, with their death threats. Be proud, John, to be just like them!

Dobbs actually called Maddow a "tea-Bagging queen" and started the same rhetoric about how and why she was the tea bagging queen by making snarky comments.

If there is one commentator on cable news who definitely would not be a tea bagger it is Rachael Maddow. I can't speak to what she and her wife do in the privacy of their bedroom, but I'm pretty confident that it isn't tea bagging. Not that facts ever get in the way of Dobbs' opinions. I really hope he runs for President.

Click. Ignored.

Be gone. You have no power here just like your TEA BAGGER cohorts don't in this country. Their perception that they are relevant,successful and have the power to change the course of true Democracy is not reality. It is a fallacy. An epic fail.

But w/ever. No my grasp of their ideology isn't on a kindergarten level John it's their inability to find a name suitable to their so called philosophy. They are hardly original. And you don't think that they chose that name with a veiled attempt at basically telling anyone who's against them what they want to do to the rest of America?

Please.

Keep flapping your jaws that spew nothing but ignorant talking points John because the only fool around is you.

Don't call them teabaggers. In deference to John Russell, let's call them radical Islamists, since that is exactly what they are acting like, with their death threats. Be proud, John, to be just like them!

Referees that make bad calls at football games get death threats too. I think Balloon Boy's dad has gotten death threats. Calm down.

Yes, and aren't you proud to be just like idiots who call for death to referees and death to America? Be proud, John! Be proud! Hey, instead of teabaggers, how about "death threaters". Nah, no pizzazz. Jihadists! That works.

But w/ever. No my grasp of their ideology isn't on a kindergarten level John it's their inability to find a name suitable to their so called philosophy. They are hardly original. And you don't think that they chose that name with a veiled attempt at basically telling anyone who's against them what they want to do to the rest of America?

If I continue to pick on you I am going to feel like a bully, so I will try and leave it at this ---

Last February, a CNBC stock analyst named Rick Santelli made the on air rant 'heard round the world' when he made a five minute assault on the Obama stimulus package from the floor of the Chicago Options Exchange. At the end of his rant he announced he was going to plan a modern day 'Tea Party' to be held on the shores of Lake Michigan on the 4th of July, as a protest against reckless government spending and bailouts of both Wall St. and those who were underwater with their mortgages.

THAT is where the beginnings of the Tea Party movement started. Santelli's rant and idea for a 'tea party'were picked up on by various right wing talk show hosts and other activists, and the movement started. The date of the first event was moved up from the 4th of July to April 15th, Tax day.

Now you are not as ignorant as you were 2 minutes ago.

Waiting for Grand Mufti Pat Robertson to issue a fatwa denouncing this...wonder if I should hold my breath while I wait.

There are teabaggers that are making death threats, which makes them terrorists. Now that there are terrorists in that group, belonging to it makes one a terrorist by virtue of association. I learned that from Rush Limbaugh, who said Obama was a terrorist b/c of Ayers.

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Grand Mufti?

I thought its the Grand Poobah Rush Limbaugh?

You aren't answering my question sir, why do you care?

The same reason people care when anyone uses "fag", "ni--er", or any other slur.

There are teabaggers that are making death threats, which makes them terrorists.

A bit watered down isn't it? I played fottball in high school and the opposing team said "I'm gonna kill you!" which is a death threat...do these death threats carry any weight? Probably not. Did the lineman who was coming for me in highschool carry any weight in his threat? Probably not...

They didn't 'tar themselves', if they were 'tarred' , they were tarred by the left. 'Teabagging' as the term was used by Maddow and Olbermann has nothing to do with the protests or the protestors.

So they didn't pick the tea bag as their symbol? And those weren't teabags hanging from their hats and bouncing off from their faces? What about their pledge to put 1 million teabags in the fountain in the park in D.C? Guess they were lying huh? I guess that's what I get for listening to mental defectives like them, huh?

Wow, I guess that's what I get for believing their own words and pictures of them. How my lying eyes and ears have let me down! They call themselves teabaggers and yet when I do, I'm lying? Great defense there Johnny.

;-)

"A bit watered down isn't it? I played fottball in high school and the opposing team said "I'm gonna kill you!" which is a death threat...do these death threats carry any weight? Probably not. Did the lineman who was coming for me in highschool carry any weight in his threat? Probably not..."

Try saying that to your stewardess next time you fly. See how little weight they give it.

Either way, this cartoonist is getting death threats and it exactly mirrors the Muslim cartoon death threats.

gundy_75

do these death threats carry any weight? Probably not

Why don't we ask Dr. Tiller, maybe he can give us his perspective on the subject.

Your entire rationale is based on these people being ignorant of the gutter slang use of the word, therefore they deserved to be ridiculed.

I am glad to see here, however, that you admit that they are just plain stooooopid.

RDS

One word: Revisionism

Nuff said.

I thought its the Grand Poobah Rush Limbaugh?

I think he is busy, you know, collecting fees from everyone trying to cross his bridge...a troll's work is never done.

I say lets ask Dr. Tiller, maybe he can give us his perspective on the subject.

Please stay on subject. I don't think abortion has anything to do with the Tea Party movement.

Try saying that to your stewardess next time you fly. See how little weight they give it.

Uhh hmmm. Yeah, lets try and address my post if you feel it is important enough to quote. I gave (what I thought) was an apt analogy based on anger instead of saying:

"Yeah try telling that to a cop, TSA, etc etc." because everyone already knows what would happen and I am actually 100% sure that there have been multiple political cartoonists and animators who have received death threats but we can just ignore that for the sake of ignorance as well...

As a sidenote, jihad is a word used to describe a religious obligation and the Tea Party movement is not that in any way shape or form.

Please stay on subject. I don't think abortion has anything to do with the Tea Party movement.

Interesting, really interesting...you guys can really compartmentalize extremely well.

As a sidenote, jihad is a word used to describe a religious obligation and the Tea Party movement is not that in any way shape or form.

The Tea Party movement is "putting religion in a lot of people who haven't had religion before," he said. "You get it. That's why we are going to turn it around."

The crowd applauded Herger's efforts to, among other things, oppose health care reform, reduce government spending and fight tax increases.

http://www.redding.com/news/2010/jan/04/herger-applauds-tea-party-movement/

(Norwegian version of Three Billy Goats Gruff)

"It's I! The big Billy Goat Gruff ," said the billy goat, who had an ugly hoarse voice of his own.

"Now I 'm coming to gobble you up," roared the troll.

Well, come along! I've got two spears,
And I'll poke your eyeballs out at your ears;
I've got besides two curling-stones,
And I'll crush you to bits, body and bones.

That was what the big billy goat said. And then he flew at the troll, and poked his eyes out with his horns, and crushed him to bits, body and bones, and tossed him out into the cascade, and after that he went up to the hillside. There the billy goats got so fat they were scarcely able to walk home again. And if the fat hasn't fallen off them, why, they're still fat; and so,

Snip, snap, snout.
This tale's told out.

Watch out trolls........you aren't as unstoppable as you think you are.

As a sidenote, jihad is a word used to describe a religious obligation and the Tea Party movement is not that in any way shape or form.

That's a matter of opinion. Their fanaticism borders on the religious and there are many religious undertones to their "movement".

"there have been multiple political cartoonists and animators who have received death threats but we can just ignore that for the sake of ignorance as well..."

So your defense is that because others have made death threats, that this is okay? Really? Tell me how you felt about the Muslims making death threats over a cartoon? Were you peachy keen with that, too?

Is it really your stance that threats of violence are nothing to get concerned about?

As a sidenote, jihad is a word used to describe a religious obligation and the Tea Party movement is not that in any way shape or form.

I would post all the links that suggests otherwise...but why waste my time.

Never have a fight with an unarmed....ah, you know the rest.

That's a matter of opinion.

Your right, the rare definition: Rare a crusade in support of a cause

In this article it was used for sensationalism.

you guys can really compartmentalize extremely well.

Silly me you are also right, I mean this group of people got together and said "Let's start a movement about religion" and then the Tea Party was formed aptly named for the House of Lipton religion...please don't post some blog article with a comment from someone no one has heard about and then say, "Hey, it is religious!"

Global warming is a religion as well. You want to play do-see-do? Stick to the subject was all I said in regards to Abortion, and jihad is generally used to cite a religious obligation as is stated above.

So your defense is that because others have made death threats, that this is okay? Really? Tell me how you felt about the Muslims making death threats over a cartoon? Were you peachy keen with that, too?

I defended no one.

I would post all the links that suggests otherwise

I conceded.

Obviously your grasp of the symbolism intended by the Tea Partys is on a kindergarten level, so I'll just let it go at that.

Oh really? Well, I am not letting the above statement go.

What was the stated purpose of the Boston Tea Party? And do you honestly believe this pathetic little hissy fit of a protest movement funded by neo-con Dick Armey meets the muster and intent of the original tea party?

Last time I checked, if you are 18 years of age and a citizen, you have a vote.

These rallies are ridiculous, they are a mix of the conservative elderly demanding that govt keep its hands of their Medicare, racists finding any excuse to protest against a black president, and extremists who find it acceptable to walk around armed in a public gathering.

Between them, these people have the IQ of a block of wood, and are about as useful.

extremists who find it acceptable to walk around armed in a public gathering.

This happens daily, it is called conceal and carry.

Between them, these people have the IQ of a block of wood, and are about as useful.

This is probably the biggest problem; demeaning an entire group and berating Americans for simply voicing opinions.

This is probably the biggest problem

Problem huh?

Teabaggers can't tell you what they're for, they can only tell you what they're against.

Yup, I will. That's my free speech right.

Anyone dumb enough to fall for Dick Armey's anarchy through the abolishment of govt vision is luck to be able to walk and breathe simultaneously.

There is a difference between being a fiscal conservative based in some form of 21st century reality and being a teabagger.

This happens daily, it is called conceal and carry.

Uh, I don't think you can carry a CONCEALED weapon my friend.

But I question the need to carry sidearm in public.

You know what I hate? A pussy with a gun.

-Mr Smith, Shoot'em Up

It is only a Constitutional right to form well-regulated militias, not to tote around handguns at public demonstrations.

But whatever. My block of wood statement stays......

You said that the tea partiers hijacked the word ''teabagger", which is a lie. The term was put on them by their political enemies. Are you going to change your statement in order to comply with the truth? Rather, the question is, John, are you? As reported on Fox News,14 March, Griff Jenkins said, "ReTeaParty.com has a headline, 'Teabag the fools in DC on Tax Day.'" And in fact, they did have exactly that headline, as I know from having actually gone there at the time and having read it myself.

When one of the leading groups of teabaggers headlines their website with an admonition to "teabag Washington", it's more than a little disingenuous to claim the label was put on them by their political enemies.

But that is about par for you, isn't it?

JohnRussell

where do you get the nerve to complain if someone uses the word 'fag' or 'fruit', or if they use the n word for that matter

If they're your words, use 'em, JohnRussell. You know you want to, go ahead. You've already made it VERY clear who you are.

You said that the tea partiers hijacked the word ''teabagger", which is a lie. The term was put on them by their political enemies. Are you going to change your statement in order to comply with the truth?

John there you go with your mythology again. I first heard the tea-bagger term used to describe the participants in the ordinal event. The protest was to consist of sending tea bags to elected officials and was to culminate with dumping a zillion tea bags in the Potomac. That plan was nixed by the cops as it would have violated lettering and polluting laws. As the protest centered around tea bags, the protesters were identified as tea-baggers. Apparently I don't engage in the same kinds of sexual activities as the conservatives who went ballistic over being called tea-baggers as I had no clue why they were so angry. It was later, here on the Vine that I was informed about the double meaning.

So John, don't get your teabags in a knot over what might well have started as an honest mistake.

I am a tea bagger, and that was hysterical. Looked like a character from Joe Cartoon. LOL Now I have a video for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAaWvVFERVA

Now picture this as people on newsvine, calling each other names.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V7zbWNznbs&feature=related

You have to have sense of humor, hope you enjoyed these videos

Rather, the question is, John, are you?

Nah, if he was going to he would have changed it way back in April when I showed him the reteaparty.com page. I wonder if it's due to senility or thickheadedness.

John Russell is smart and you should listen to him! Tea partys arent teabags because they don't put bad parts of there bodys into poeples mouths when they are sleeping! That is disgusting!!! They just want poeple to obey the Constitution! You stupid libs would know that if you went to a tea party!!!

"This is probably the biggest problem; demeaning an entire group and berating Americans for simply voicing opinions."

I guess you've never listened to one of Rush Limbaugh's shows, eh? He and all of his brain dead listeners spend every day calling Americans all kinds of names for voicing opinions. Moonbats, libtards, libturds, dumbocraps, commies, socialists, and now Rush Limbaugh with his pathetic, sad-old-man "free love peaceniks". LMAO.

If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

Thanks, fuhgetaboutit, for reminding us of John Russell's "moonbat" references.

I just don't get it. How can the tea pary folks scream "socialist", "communist" or what every while they are tea bagging?

How can they speak when their mouth is full?

Why is it you can't just come out and say what you really believe and only resort to calling others names? Is your religion, your beliefs, are they so weak they can't stand the light of day? Or is it your faith that is so weak it can't stand up to a few idiots like me? It can't take the thoughts of others or defend itself from a few moonbat liberals?

Gotta be bold John Russel ;)

People who refer to the Tea Party protests in terms of the sexual innuendo are either liars or goofballs. Why should I 'debate' such people? If you want to refer to the Tea Party movement , and call them 'Tea Partiers' as a way of identifying them, I don't care if you then call them fascists, thugs, racists, or whatever you want. You will undoubtedly still be wrong in describing all of those people in that way, but at least you won't be deliberately slurring them and hiding behind the double meanings of words.

People who refer to the Tea Party protests in terms of the sexual innuendo are either liars or goofballs.

As everyone knows......The tea party "protesters" have referred to themselves in those terms. They identify themselves as tea baggers.

Try to stop us from using the word Teabagger. It's here to stay. Live with it. Just like your ilk have tried calling all people to the left of Hitler "socialists" or commies. Or "moonbats". Shrug.

The first people to use the term WERE tea party dummies. They seemed proud of it, too, as their signs proclaimed things like "tea bag the liberal democrats before they tea bag you" and "tea bag the fools in D.c."

Sign: Tea bag the liberal democrats before they tea bag you:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_JthwHxdA-dc/SamI8EhvARI/AAAAAAAAAnA/i8uxKmurStw/s400/Tea%2BBag.jpg&imgrefurl=http://falsehustle.blogspot.com/2009_02_22_archive.html&usg=__cGazFfBgptRRgXCfgMv5TFv3b_A=&h=300&w=400&sz=25&hl=en&start=8&sig2=oJSN_mGDvE5k1L9bbMk7kQ&um=1&tbnid=1r--1CrHvU_-4M:&tbnh=93&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dtea%2Bbag%2Bliberal%2Bdemocrats%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26hs%3DE0K%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=g_NJS8DODMbp8Qbx-732Ag

Sign: Tea bag Obama:

http://www.slicksno.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/tea-bag-o-tampa.jpg

Invitation by libertarian activist: Tea bag the fools in Washington:

http://www.humblelibertarian.com/2009/03/reminder-to-tea-bag-fools-in-washington.html

Teabaggers were the first to use the term "tea bag" or "teabagging". You lose all right to complain.

JohnRussell

I don't care if you then call them fascists, thugs, racists, or whatever you want. You will undoubtedly still be wrong in describing all of those people in that way, but at least you won't be deliberately slurring them

So, you don't mind being called a fascist, a thug or a racist, but being called a teabagger is a slur... You're a complicated man, JohnRussell.

Here's the best "teabagging" photo ever. An old lady with a poster that has a big flag on it, and the words "teabagging for Jesus". Be proud, old woman. Be proud!

http://media.photobucket.com/image/teabagging%20for%20jesus/MoronsWithSigns/tumblr_kqpmifYn1Q1qzs26lo1_400.jpg

Here's the best "teabagging" photo ever. An old lady with a poster that has a big flag on it, and the words "teabagging for Jesus". Be proud, old woman. Be proud!

If, and only if, the woman were aware that liberals would one day use the word against her via it's connection to gay sex, then perhaps she would qualify as 'stupid' or a 'moron'. It is safe to assume she knew no such thing. So who is the moron, her, or people who imagine non-existent shame and ridicule?

"If, and only if, the woman were aware that liberals would one day use the word against her via it's connection to gay sex, then perhaps she would qualify as 'stupid' or a 'moron'. It is safe to assume she knew no such thing. So who is the moron, her, or people who imagine non-existent shame and ridicule?"

Who CARES??? The point is YOUR side used it first! Too bad if you don't like it now. Try to stop us. Meanwhile, go back to using your own slurs...you certainly have no problem doing so yourself.

Jesus Christ is that 1-ply still ranting? His fingers must be hoarse by now.

Btw, from another post someone called them TEA PEOPLE.

You know like from those really bad, grainy "B" space movies......"Attack of the Tea People", etc.

I think it fits.

But tell us, why do you think it is appropriate to use the word teabagging here?

Fine. What do you think we should call them? What other name do they actually have?

Tango...I can't imagine the lame-arsed teabaggers grumbling over the truth!...can you?

Fuhgetabotit

That's like asking them What is a REAL American and expecting a straightforward answer.

A REAL American is......(such)

They spews things out and then get choked on their own stupidity because they have no response for the ignorance so they go around and around and around in a nauseating display of even more ignorance.

Speaking of ignorance, JohnRussell, you remain unaware of what "teabagging" is in it's less "political" meaning. It is NOT gay sex though the act, like many other heterosexual behaviors, can be performed by gay partners.

http://www.sexdictionary.info/teabagging.html (Be warned, a drawing i found on this link.)

Morons like Olbermann and Maddow...

Hey. I'll give you Olbermann, but don't you dare call Maddow a moron.

You MIGHT be right, but I'm pretty damned sure at least a good many of the people who coined the term 'tea-bagging' for this political movement had heard it used in it's alternate context before. It takes very little research to discover that porn sales are highest in the red states and the "Bible belt".

Yep and he'll take out his bible and thump you hard over the head!

PNV

I haven't been exactly angelic around here either. Wont stand in line to cast stones that will ricochet and hit me!

hehe

:)

Actually, I usually considered a verge LARGE target!

Besides, angels are over-rated Susi!

PNV thank you your words are very kind :)

As for rocks. LOL no worries. Some hit. Some miss. I wear my twisted halo proudly :)

David

Ya think? I'm thinking it's fun embracing being both.....there are places and times for both.

:)

It's all about balance!

Most definitely David!

:)

What do you call someone who fights fires? A firefighter.
What do you call someone who farms? A farmer.
What do you call someone who complains? A complainer.

What do you call someone who "teabags" Washington? Amongst conservatives, a "patriot", and don't you forget it.

Isn't it funny how the English language constantly has to be adjusted in order to accommodate the sensitivities and general ignorance of hard-core conservatives?

dedicated to J. Russell:

Do your teabags hang low?

Do they wobble to and fro?

Can you tie them in a knot?

Can you tie them in a bow?

Can you throw them over your shoulder?

Like a tea bagger party soldier?

Do your tea bags hang low?

At least three of you are incapable of besting a sack of rocks in a 'debate'.

I wouldn't go so far as to characterize you as a sack of rocks John but I guess you know yourself better than anyone else.

Do his Tea bags hang low?

Ouch! That's a mighty personal question dontcha think Rob?

;)

Am I one of the three JohnRussell? Am I? Am I? C'mon JR, I gotta KNOW!!!!

Oooooo too bad I ignored the 1-ply recycled piece of toilet paper now Im curious to read his diatribes......

Fill me in someone......

:)

JohnRussell

But w/ever. No my grasp of their ideology isn't on a kindergarten level John it's their inability to find a name suitable to their so called philosophy. They are hardly original. And you don't think that they chose that name with a veiled attempt at basically telling anyone who's against them what they want to do to the rest of America?

Last February, a CNBC stock analyst named Rick Santelli made the on air rant 'heard round the world' when he made a five minute assault on the Obama stimulus package from the floor of the Chicago Options Exchange. At the end of his rant he announced he was going to plan a modern day 'Tea Party' to be held on the shores of Lake Michigan on the 4th of July, as a protest against reckless government spending and bailouts of both Wall St. and those who were underwater with their mortgages.

Thanks for postings an explanation regarding the origin of the term. When I first heard it used I just assumed it related to the Boston Tea Party but couldn't pinpoint the date/time/location of it's inception.

All the juvenile-like snickering, Beavis & Butthead comments & demeanor stands to reason when you consider the source, including the hijacking of the term "jihad":

slang
noun
1.
2. (in English and some other languages) speech and writing characterized by the use of vulgar and socially taboo vocabulary and idiomatic expressions.
3. the jargon of a particular class, profession, etc.
4. the special vocabulary of thieves, vagabonds, etc.; argot.
verb (used without object)
5. to use slang or abusive language.
verb (used with object)
6. to assail with abusive language.

The Tea Party definately has the earmarkings of a Fascist movement.

Paxton wrote:

“Fascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy and purity"

Bosworth Wrote:

“Fascism is a form of political and social behavior that arises when the middle class, finding its hopes frustrated by economic instability coupled with political polarization and deadlock, abandons traditional ideologies" (in our case republcans and democrats)

a. Middle Class. In the United States, the term “middle class” as used here includes the high poor, lower middle, middle, and part of the upper middle classes. Americans generally think themselves one class higher than they actually are.

b. Economic Instability. Economic instability played a prominent role in the rise of fascism wherever it was successful, and was more perilous to the middle classes than to the lower classes (who had little to lose) or the upper classes (who were insulated from its effects)

c. Polarization and Deadlock. In all cases where fascism was successful, its rise was preceded by a period of political polarization and parliamentary deadlock.

d. Abandonment of Traditional Ideologies. When the Enlightenment heritage of individual rights, progress, and equality collapsed into unprecedented carnage.

Other Observations:

It is commonly observed that fascism was more a matter of the gut than of the head. Clearly those who joined fascist parties often did so from shrewd self-interest, but the same could be said of those who join any party. It was the emotional appeal of fascism – the notion that through sheer hope and force of will difficult and long-standing problems could easily be resolved – that set it apart.

In identifying "goodness" and "superiority" with "us," there was a tendency to identify "evil" with "them." This process involves scapegoating and dehumanization. It was then an easy step to blame all societal problems on "them," and presuppose a conspiracy of these evildoers which had emasculated and humiliated the idealized core group of the nation. To solve society's problems one need only unmask the conspirators and eliminate them.

One element shared by all fascist movements, racialist or not, is the apparent lack of consistent political principle behind the ideology_political opportunism in the most basic sense. One virtually unique aspect of fascism is its ruthless drive to attain and hold state power. On that road to power, fascists are willing to abandon any principle to adopt an issue more in vogue and more likely to gain converts.

Your comments might have been useful 6 months ago.

truth indeed - firstly I was thinking how long ago was this seed. Secondly as much as the tea baggers do my nut in i am starting to get really bored of this cut and paste comment from kaptainQuirk

Getting ready to depart the Vine I think. It's getting way too squirrely for me around here these days.

Getting ready to depart the Vine I think.

Oy Mr Whatever (lol) or should I say Rob my love - don't you dare leave!! They will go away eventually - we cannot let them take over!!!! if forbid it and as fuhg says I am a minx - actually these days i am a very pissy minx so don't let me have to hunt you down!

Reasearch of factual information is "squirrelly? Thats interesting. I think you just dont like the truth from credible and well established sources. We are doomed to repeat the past if we dont learn from it.

Now here is something i wrote. You might like it a bit more since its not cut and paste. But i warn you i stoop to your level of cynicism with this. My musings on this concept is what prompted me to gather facts and "copy and paste" them together:

"How's all of dat der drilley offshorey stuff workin out fer ye'all?
You betcher." Spill Baby Spill. That certainly sums it up. Of course, Palin fully understands oil spills because she could see Exxon Valdez from her front door. ;P

How about a modern day "tea" party.. Send the recovery ships to England and dump the oil in their harbour. Spill Baby Spill?... I am a true independent, not a racist in disguise republican acting like one. I dont like any of them!!!!

Greed Kills Everything

ALL oil barons are REPuBLICAN.. BP lied and people and fish died. Ask George Bush why he didnt implement some system to deal with this before it happened? afterall he is an Oil Baron. He should be expert on the subject. Its Simple. GREED

I hope those getting tired of the truth forever stop coming here.

Kwirk, your views have nothing to do with my leaving the Vine. The cut and paste grenade trolling I don't much care for. I'm moving on because I no longer find the Vine to be intellectually challenging or fulfilling yet it is terribly time consuming. It's boiled down to a series of rants and counter rants from people cloaked in anonymity. Rarely do I stumble on to any constructive dialogues that foster mutual respect and intellectual growth. Evey thread has grains of reason but most are quickly peppered with scattershot personal attacks and mindless diatribes that are repeated virtually ver batim by the same posters on multiple threads.

I would never post under a screen name other than my own name fug. I have about 400 friends on the Vine and maybe 2 or 3 on the ignore list. Using the ignore option often disrupts what meaningful discourse there is and often obscures comments from those who's opinions I do respect.

Bottom line is the Newsvine has become really @!$%#ing boring for this old Huey gunship driver and boring is not something I do well. Glad to have anyone who cares to come see me on face book though. I'll be posting a departure note to this effect in the near future.

Now to refine my position a bit more..

You might be interested to know I am a true independent, not a racist in disguise republican acting like one. I am disgusted with the way our political system is owned by corporations rather than being a true democracy, ran by the people for the people. But I'm not running around with a gun on my hip in public places while carrying a sign with our president in racist characterture shouting obscenities and misinformation. This is fed by other corporations who happen to own all our news media. They fan the flames so to speak rather than report the news in factual non-partisan fashion.

I do not defend president Obama nor the republicans who, incidentally had two presidents named Bush that did nothing to implement a system to deal with deep water oil drilling accidents before it happened. After all they are Oil barons, they are experts on the subject. I personally dont like ANY of them. But I also dislike people wasting precious time blaming Obama for this when it landed in his lap and he was lied to. We need to start working TOGETHER and stop the gridlock in our congress and senate. Its just that simple. In my view, people from both sides have valid points and if you refuse to listen or participate, then NOONE can do a job right. In the case of Bush he would'nt let people who were not registered republicans attend his political rallies. And in the case of Obama not ONE republican participated or voted for health care reform and he forced it through no matter the outcome, among other things for both of them. You need to listen to people you disagree with because they may actually have a good point you missed.

I can't neglect to mention all the back door deals done by both sides in the process of forming our health care reform which is badly needed. The human cost of making money by both sides and the corporations, many of which are not even from this country, is not counted when comparing what it "might" cost in paper and ink. People seem to miss the point about this, they go crazy if you say you are going to raise taxes a little but say NOTHING about the high price of medicine and medical treatment imposed by corporations. Interesting indeed. But we cannot leave out most other areas of commerce here. It's pandemic now.

The things I posted above are from research of well established sources and it scares me to see our country heading down the same road that Hitler and Mussolini among others did. I'm a DAD as well and a grandfather, we are leaving our children who dont remember how things worked in the past, a legacy of hate and greed. This greatly concerns me.

George W. Bush allowed warrantless wiretapping, started a war based on lies which in reality was to get at iraq's oil, tried to kill a fillibuster provision in congress that has beenon the books for 200 years and yet call himself conservative, and was the closest thing to a dictator we ever had in this country. You tea party people love to say you started in the Bush years but said nothing about this and many other things he said and did. Bush quote>> "I wish this was'nt a democracy, it would be so much easier to get things done." Whatever...

Additionally, Reagan penned NAFTA and Bush1 penned GATT, then Clinton signed them into law when they made it through the process, yet everyone wants to blame only the dems for this travesty to the American job market. BOTH PARTIES are to blame here and seek the same things. The only argument is who will make the money.

So you are libertarians? Then why do you call yourself "the tea party" and have several factions directly related to the republican party? Which is it? If you are libertarians, I have some questions. Who will pay for police and military and schools and prisons and myriads of other things you have and USE now? Should gangsters and murderers and thieves and rapists be also allowed "to not have the government interfere in their lives"?

Try to see it clearly and quit using your gut reactions like a fascist. Yes we are on that road if our elected offcials dont start working together.

I didn't read a word of your post above and don't plan to. What I'm curious about is why you write down so many words to post to an ancient thread in vine time that only the seeder and a couple of other people who can't resist going back in time will even see.

I wonder why you wonder a lot about my activities. surely you have something else to do than read new posts on old threads. Troll maybe?

No Kwirk. You must not understand the definition of a troll. Like all users on the Vine I get a heads up when someone adds a new post to a thread that I have previously participated in. When I go on line I check all new posts in my inbox.

I'll de-track this post now so as not to further impose on your quite time.

Rob, You have not given any good commentary either against of for my research and articles. You only talk off topic in a demeaning way about me, Where I come from thats called a troll, I admin a chat lobby and forum at a gaming site so I'm fully aware of what "trolling" is. I also know people follow their seeds here and I do my posts on those seeds. Now you have "understanding".

It is a funny cartoon about the current environment of intolerance. A large number of elderly and students that have benefited from the new laws that help them keep, expand or get coverage. My parents have changed their mind both about the issues and what parties they support. Most Americans do not like a constant diet of hate.

Our nation needs to learn about mixing social programs and capitalism in a way that actually works. If the two parties do not get there soon we will crumble as a major power.